Tuesday, October 5, 2010

My Glimpse of MCFD Offends Me / Part 329 / For Love and For Justice / Zabeth and Paul Bayne

Seldom do I learn of an apprehension that turns around in a short time and returns the child to the parents. Instead what I am observing is a pattern that retains the child in care often for long periods of time, one year, two years, three years. My experience is limited. It began with the Paul and Zabeth Bayne case and their three children taken into care by the provincial Ministry of Children. We are now marking the third anniversary of the injuries sustained by their youngest child. Injuries for which according to them they are not willfully responsible. That is, they deny having intentionally harmed their child. Nevertheless, the MCFD, resting its belief upon the medical diagnoses of Children's Hospital personnel, asserts still that one or both of the Baynes hurt her, abused her, shook or battered a seven week old girl that they cherished. They already had two sons, two and three years old.

Common sense, charity, conscience informs most people that every effort should be made to insure that these children are returned to their parents. There has been no confession but a resolute assertion of innocence and there has been no direct evidence of abuse but a speculation. A second medical opinion was not sought by MCFD. Instead the Baynes were forced to laboriously acquire one dozen alternate opinions that dispute the initial diagnosis and further defend the legitimacy and viability of the Baynes' accident report. In light of this, more time and effort it seems to me should have been spent in repair of a separated family rather that construction of grounds for keeping the family apart.

Since that introduction to parental conflict with the Ministry I have been made aware of countless other family situations in which helpless parents struggle against a monolithically resourced Ministry. Over many years the Ministry appears to have become less focused upon developing healthy families. Instead the honourable objective of protecting children and their best interests has been misrepresented until children are perceived instinctively as adversaries. Please understand, that is what I see. This disturbs me very much. I want a social service enterprise that has a family agenda and deep coffers of forgiveness and a nursing spirit to help parents and children come together.

I acknowledge that this ministry must deal with some deplorable caregiver conduct. If I was a social worker and saw abuse to a child I would be incensed. I understand that there is a contemptible side of society that requires a tough approach to protecting and caring for children. I know that there are parents whose unaddressed personal life issues make them unreformable. Yet not all of the parents whose children are removed from them are rotten parents. Similar stories across Canada and throughout the United States and around the world are a resounding condemnation of excessive child protective services that are insensitive, unkind, inconsiderate, and sometimes dishonorable.

I have registered my shock and distaste before. I would love to be given reasons to change my mind.

23 comments:

  1. What is unreformable is the "child protection" system in its current legal operating framework. It allows abuse of power of mega magnitude with little recourse to parents, ruthless destruction of families (the backbone of a nation), insatiable artificially created demand of "services", endless atrocities and resulting social problems.

    If there is real child safety issues that warrants state invention, including physical separation of abusive parents and their vulnerable children, bail hearing process in the Criminal Code and the Mental Health Act are sufficient to ensure reasonable protection. CFCSA is oppressive and destructive. No meaningful reform is possible without killing CFCSA and revoking its child removal authority.

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  2. Ron,

    In line with your comments I would like to point out some statistics which I won't bother to source (easily verified by anyone with a computer), but are none the less accurate. Children are more likely to injured, killed and sexually abused in care than their own home. Children who have been involved with a Child Protection Agency are less likely to graduate from high school or attain higher education than those who have not received "service". The disparity increases if they are removed from their home. Similar statistics exist when looking at economic well-being. Suicide rates also follow a similar path.
    Despite the stated goal of removals being limited to when "no other less disruptive measure is available", the frequency,number and overall percentage of removals continues to rise at an alarming rate. I have not checked recently but I have every reason to believe that the following referenced page is still up on the MCFD website. On the page, services are offered to parents who may need help with household cleaning or childcare(babysitting). If one was to call to any of the MCFD Offices they would quickly be told that "MCFD no longer offers these services". Why? Well, it is hard to say with certainty since they will not tell you why, although some will opine that "Our budget does not allow it". Less disruptive? Certainly. Make MCFD look good in the eyes of the Public by appearing to offer such a service? Certainly. Is the service available in any real world tangible way? Absolutely not.

    I have more detailed examples for the anonymous poster who asked a few days ago about how to be effective in battling the rampant Child Protection corruption, but I will place that in my next post.

    From "The Art of War"
    'An enemy is at his weakest after many victories.' Child Protection has had too many victories. Now is our time to strike.

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  3. Does Canadian gov't offer money to provinces to defray the cost of child apprehensions? Does the provincial gov't funnel money per head to the MCFD when a child is apprehended in BC?
    I watched a youtube interview with a former gov't representative in which he asserted that a state received $85,000 for a child who was apprehended by CPS. There the state also "covers costs" by charging the adoptive parents fees for the adoption process!!

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  4. Governments all over the world have become very corrupt. The bigger they get, the more corrupt they become. And the more power each individual department or ministry or agency has, the more corrupt it is. There is no more powerful ministry than that which has the power to tear families apart on the feeble legal standard of proof of "balance of probabilities."

    The only way to solve the problem of corruption is to make the government afraid of the people. The only way to do that is to cut the size of government so that it isn't so big and powerful, and so the buck can't be passed.

    There must be accountability. Right now, the government - especially MCFD - has almost total power, and almost zero accountability. People have to start helping others, instead of helping the government. Quit being a spy or witness or whatever for the government, and start sticking up for your neighbour. The future of humanity really does depend on it. Government, and the awful power it now wields, is our biggest threat. Many of us just don't know it, yet.

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  5. I am unsure whether Sun Tze ever alleged in the Art of War that "An enemy is at his weakest after many victories." Perhaps Child Protection Exposed could enlighten me.

    Sun Tze did suggest to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak (Chapter 6 verse 30). So do not engage them in their battlefield. Bring them in to fight in your battlefield. They are not untouchable.

    Common sense also suggests not to openly discuss strategy and tactical plans when at war, especially when your enemy is reading this blog. It feels good to vent here. But it will harm your cause. I suggest that Child Protection Exposed and all those who are in favor of seeking meaningful reform should join local like-mind organizations (google MCFD and you will find them) and fight them en mass. Don't fight them individually because you can't win. Various breeds of social parasites have locked arms and form a formidable cartel for their livelihood and best interests and appear as an angel of light. Learn from their unity and solidarity.

    Child Protection Exposed, this is a difficult and dangerous endeavor and will take a long time before you will see result. Are you ready?

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  6. I also believe that CPS is ready to fall. It is, all over the world, one festering mass of corruption, intent upon destroying what is most sacred, the Family. The ONLY way it can survive is by telling lies, to the court, to the media, to everyone who really does care about children and families. The truth will out. And when it does, watch out, because what inspires outrage more than those who harm children? Answer: Those who hypocritically pretend to protect them, while destroying them, and those who use our money and sympathy and misunderstanding to commit their awful deeds.

    CPS will fall, it's only a matter of time. The bigger the are, the harder they fall. And CPS will fall so hard it will echo for centuries to come.

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  7. Ron; I would like to change the topic for a bit and talk about social workers and the law. Social workers in many fields of employment have their duties and responsibilities defined by statute. As well as child protection staff, there are probation officers, family court counsellors, medical social workers, psychiatric social workers, bail supervisors, child advocate workers, ombudsman staff and many others who work in similar fields. Social workers also used to work in the financial services and were governed by several statutes. Even registered social workers in private practice are accountable to the registration act. Many of thes employees are in effect the executors of the various acts.
    It has always seemed to me that it was most important that social workers should become thoroughly knowledgeable about the statutes under which they work. It is just as important to understand the spirit of an act as it is to adhere to the letter of the law. Apparently, many other people took this view, because the UBC school of social work used to give and excellent course in social work and the law under the late Prof. Jack McDonald and Uvic ran a similar course. I do not know whether or not these were optional, but I think that they should be required. They should certainly be required as part of core training in the MCFD. Personally, I would have felt that I was working with one hand tied behind me if I had not got a working knowledge of all the statutes that affected my work and I used to bore my staff by making sure we covered them in staff meetings. The book of acts was one of my most important references, just as The Acts are to you no doubt Ron!!!
    I find it puzzling that so many social workers nowadays have no interest in the statutes that govern them. I mentioned before that a thirty year employee supervisor thought he was absolved from following the act because he was not a lawyer. He even said he followed policy and that was more important than the act!! Possibly the ministry has followed the letter of the law in the Bayne case, but the spirit of the law has been butchered in the process. I think what has happened is that the training and skill development of the staff has deteriorated so badly that the staff have given up any pretense at having many of the knowledge and skills expected of a social worker. With such high staff turnover there is no way they have the time to develop and mature. As a result they farm out every function they can to perceived experts in other fields. They have abandoned all their legal skills to lawyers. Their assessment skills are turned over to psychologists and private counsellors. Their counselling skills are abandoned to the private sector or the mental health sector. So what is the result. The service is not run for the benefit of families and children. It is run for the benefit of lawyers, psychologists,private counsellors and community service soceties. Is it more efficient? It is a great deal more expensive and time consuming. Nothing is ever simple and court cases are protracted to provide revenue for lawyers. Inevitably, everything becomes adversarial and there is never enough counselling as long as there is money in the pot.

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  8. It has helped me to read the insights that people have gained by fighting MCFD. I was so naive. It is fortunate in a way as I did not know the evil around me with one SW in particular. When I read what she wrote about me, I wanted to throw up. It is so malicious. And why create false 'findings'? Now I have a different SW and she is nervous around me since she knows that I now know all the crazy lies. It is one thing to deal with the truth but it is wrong to lie. The lying by MCFD has to stop. It is a darkness that they are writing on their own lives, ultimately. I can see they expect me to be humbled and broken. But I am innocent, so I am not. I am very spiritual and it is my beliefs that have kept me sane. They have really tried to destroy me and my kids.

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  9. Ron; child protection exposed is usually a well-informd blogger and not one who merely rants. He makes the point that children in care do worse scholastically and in health than children left at home. He also says that the rates of suicide and death are higher. He also says that more children are KILLED and sexually abused when in foster care. As I pointed out last week, I would fully expect foster children to do worse in school and economically than children left at home, because many children come into care from very deprived backgrounds and with a poor hereditary legacy. A higher death and suicide rate is easily explained by the fact that children also often come into care because they have unusual medical conditions. Others come into care because of high risk lifestyles with drug addiction and so on and they are already suicidal.
    However, none of this would explain a higher rate of sexual abuse and being killed, while in care. I assume he is saying that they are killed by a caregiver, like little Sheree Charlie. Could CPE please let me know what is the source ov information on death (murder?) and sexual abuse. One further statistical point. When we look at sexual abuse and getting killed, what part of the population are we using for comparison. The population as a whole, or the top 10% of income earners, or the bottom 10%? As Benjamin Disraeli is quoted as saying. "There are lies, damned lies and there are statistics.

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  10. Those who work for and those who support Child Protective Services always claim that the reason that children fare so poorly while in foster care, and when they age out of foster care, is because their original parents - their biological parents, that is - abused and / or neglected them. This is false. They fare so poorly because they suffer enormous trauma by the very act of apprehension (or "removal" as it is now termed), and because they are bounced from foster house to foster house, where they are, too often, abused, and where they - too often - realize that they are unwanted.

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  11. The most reliable data sources show that the ratio of deaths in foster care to deaths in parental care is 5.25 in Arizona, 9.5 in Saskatchewan, 6.9 in Manitoba, 11.9 in Britain and in Ontario 17 or ten, depending on whose side you take in a controversy. An overall round number of ten to one seems reasonable.

    Projected over Americas 550,000 foster children, there should be 1540 deaths per year. Our list of foster deaths from news sources shows less than a hundred annually. A reasonable guess is that only one foster death out of twenty makes it into the press.

    http://www.fixcas.com/scholar/fatal.htm

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  12. http://www.fixcas.com/scholar/fatal.htm

    The most reliable data sources show that the ratio of deaths in foster care to deaths in parental care is 5.25 in Arizona, 9.5 in Saskatchewan, 6.9 in Manitoba, 11.9 in Britain and in Ontario 17 or ten, depending on whose side you take in a controversy. An overall round number of ten to one seems reasonable.

    Projected over Americas 550,000 foster children, there should be 1540 deaths per year. Our list of foster deaths from news sources shows less than a hundred annually. A reasonable guess is that only one foster death out of twenty makes it into the press.

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  13. Ron, how do you personally educate your own family members and immediate friends offline about child protection failings? Do they all read your blogs daily as many of us do? I have read through your other blogs, and see inspirational photos and respectable accomplishment of your family. What happens if you send them one of the typical youtube links that occasionally appear on this blog?

    Generally speaking what strategy do you adopt and what steps do you take to apprise those within your social circle of what the Ministry represents and what they do to families? What steps do you take to prepare and protect your grandchildren's future in the event child protection somehow, some day, touches their lives?

    I personally cannot imagine myself asking friends or coworkers that do not have prior involvement with MCFD to commit to watching the typical youtube videos that chronicle the extreme plight of "those other" families. The material simply is not friendly for the general public to wade through. My email would quickly be relegated to junk mail status if I were to send out regular updates on such a topic. The shock effect turns people off. They don't want to seek out more such information, and a resistance to hearing more of it builds up. MCFD wins again.

    Seeing these types of video, while validating affected parents, always invokes a feeling of helplessness, perhaps momentary outrage, then a response of perhaps "that's terrible," then they quickly resume their peaceful lives never to revisit the topic again. MCFD wins again.

    It is embarrassing to even have to admit involvement with child protection. My child's coach asked the other day "is it over?" and I responded "yes, the Ministry is gone for good", and that was it. She remains unaware of the full excruciating scope of went on during the past two years that has changed our lives forever, and which did nothing was done to improve anything. I don't want to burden others with horror stories. MCFD wins again.

    My kids refuse to watch such videos. They simply want to distance themselves from the ignominy of their removal and their resulting stay in four separate foster homes. It would be idea if they sat through a professionally designed course as part of their school curriculum that goes along with a bullying seminar that expands on the concept of bullies in government, how to recognize it, and what to do about it.

    Children have always been taught to blindly accept the legitimacy of a person in authority, and are unprepared when those people turn out to be attackers.

    My children over 12 have no interest in "warning" their peers, recounting, or confronting their experience, or putting any sort of evidence of their experience up on their Facebook pages. In this state of mind where they have no interest in fortifying their defences to help stave of the possibility of future "interventions" they remain vulnerable.

    This overhead they carry around with them, they wear the effects on their faces and in their daily conduct, and I have no clue how to undo this damage. Another parent says, "they survived, and are stronger for it." Well, soldiers survive war, and most would agree diplomacy would have been a better solution as they remember the losses suffered.

    In the meantime, my children are distrustful of all authority, are pessimistic, and thus end up closing down educational opportunities that truly helpful teachers and coaches offer. They wind up clinging to people they do trust, their young friends, who have no life experience to draw from and cannot teach.

    So, how do we as parents and concerned citizens protect our children against the biggest abusers of all, child protection? What's the plan?
    What would a family conference program look like that would be on the same scale as the recently reference bcasw.org social worker association conference? What subjects and seminars are needed? Speakers?

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  14. Every day, somewhere around the world, there is evidence of how families are abused at the hands of the government and its departments and agencies.

    The most recent example in BC is the case where a father, even though he had custody of his son, was the subject of an Amber Alert. Amber Alerts of course represent the accused as a dangerous criminal, in need of SWAT team responses, etc., etc. Everyone who has a child, or who is concerned about the exercise of power in Canada, should be interested in reading the following story:

    http://www.bclocalnews.com/fraser_valley/abbynews/news/104120249.html

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  15. By Vikki Hopes - Abbotsford News
    Published: September 30, 2010 5:00 PM
    Updated: October 02, 2010 7:04 PM

    "The father accused of abducting his child from Chilliwack, leading to police issuing an Amber Alert, had sole custody of the boy at the time of the incident.

    The man, 34, has now had his 12-year-old son returned to his care. The courts had given interim custody of the boy to his maternal grandparents after the incident on Aug. 29.

    The News is not naming the parties as this is a family court matter.

    In his reasons for judgment, Judge Kenneth Skilnick said the B.C. provincial court has no jurisdiction over the boy because he has lived in Quebec with his dad and stepmom for the last four years. The family court in Quebec should make the decision on any changes in custody, the judge said..."

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  16. I had a friend who helped me a lot while I was most in pain. She bought me food and it kept me going. I was not able to eat or sleep in those early days after apprehension. I had just had my beautiful little baby taken from me by police in a hospital. It was very unexpected. I later read the strangest report that stated she had been crawling almost naked through the halls. Not true, of course. I was at hospital for my son who was quite ill and I already had an open file but not because of abuse or neglect of my kids, but because MCFD thought I had potential mental illness (diagnosed by a neighbour). I got my baby back under supervision and I did not yet get my son back although he is with another part of my family, but still under MCFD guardianship. I am now told of another upcoming court date and more involvement required. The length of involvement in this past year of supervision orders over the last year have been because they did not put in referrals for the services they required from me in a timely manner. Each time as the supervision order is about to wear out, they put the service in on the last week. The service is then supposed to be the final thing I need to get done.
    I am with my baby and my son is doing really well, but I am still under stress, so I have not tried to educate anyone about MCFD. IT is like that. When you are involved you are so stressed and when you are still fighting, but when you have your kids back, you are working so hard to comply with the supervision orders and to undo all the stress and damage the kids have from being in care, then when MCFD goes away, you don't feel like talking about it. My son in particular as kids do not like to talk about MCFD, they find it really stressful. But now I think a lot differently and I don't assume I am finished with MCFD, and I know MCFD will be back, as they are like that, and once a person knows how easily they can take kids, it is enough to give nightmares.

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  17. 3:47 AM Anon
    I have no idea what you are doing up at that hour of the morning but your story is certainly enough to keep someone awake. Thank you for telling us. I am so very sorry that you have experienced this horrific and ongoing struggle in your family and in your life. I can hear in your written words the cries of a broken heart and the fears that you all are feeling. You have expressed it very well.

    What is the purpose of the next court date?
    When you speak about referrals of services, about what kinds of services are you speaking?

    Don't answer anything if you feel that you may be jeopardizing your case in any way.

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  18. I can certainly concur with 3:47AM, and recognize many of the same steps and MCFD's attempts to extend involvement using "services" as an excuse and the further setting of useless interim court dates (about 12 appearances for me.) These ridiculous services and assessments can be labeled differently, but they all are used as tools of delay and information gathering.

    Even though my case has been legally closed for six months, MCFD refuses to physically close the file. This means they can still edit it, prevent me from retrieving my files through a Freedom of Information Request by claiming the case is still open and under investigation.

    As far as I can determine, the two foster parents are still receiving their large payments, because my application to restore child tax benefits still has not been processed. My MSP billings still indicate my children are not yet recognized as being in my care. Neither the local MCFD office has responded, neither has escalating the matter to Bev Dicks, the Fraser Region point of escalation had any effect.

    I either can't get to sleep, or I get up at impossibly early hours in the morning, not able to return to sleep. I'm no longer able to sleep my normal 7-8 hours continuously, it is 2-4 hours at a time, max. Before removal, two years ago, it was difficult for me to wake up without an alarm after 8 hours of sleep. Maybe I'm suffering from Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome. I'm afraid to go to doctors because I know how easily MCFD can retrieve medical information. I know, and can feel them waiting for an excuse to show up in my house or my children's school again.

    My kids were A and B students that fell to low "C" levels. Being shuttle from 4 different foster care facilities in the space of a year. Hard core psychological nastiness of the foster parents telling my kids their parents didn't care anymore and they, the foster parents and the Ministry were the only ones who did care, played havoc with their young minds.

    The kids got the message no one cared, they could not trust adults in general, and they closed in on themselves.

    It is difficult for people not having their children removed to understand there are even worse things MCFD can do to parents that has been either not yet told in the Baynes story, or has not "yet" happened to them.

    MCFD will stop at nothing to wreck your kids and family to try to ensure repeat business.

    There was a statistic someone mentioned some time ago that 20% of returned children are "reabused." This means 80% of children returned should not have been removed in the first place because the process that addressed the "concerns" that worked to having the children returned should have first been applied before removal in order to comply with the CFCSA "all avenues explored" guiding principal.

    This does not even begin to address cases of completely inappropriate removals, such as is represented by the Baynes case.

    All I can say in remedy for other parents is to stand up and fight for yourselves and your children, because no one else can help you. The moment you give up or give in, your children lose.

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  19. 8:03 PM ANON
    I wrote a note last night I thought but it has somehow become lost, or never made it to this site. Let me repeat what I was trying to say then. I am going to respond at length to you. Your comment with its questions, ideas and opinions has caused me to do a lot of thinking. I have needed time to process it.

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  20. And you too ANON October 6, 2010 5:41 AM
    How courageous of you to write in confirmation of the trauma with which you live daily and hourly as a result of our government’s Ministry of Children becoming involved with your family. I note the delays ab out which you speak, and the deaf ears, and the failure to appropriately conclude file work. I can understand your timidity to go to any professionals lest that be misconstrued as some kind of weakness or dependency which becomes reason enough for another intervention. I believe that you are absolutely correct that no one but you who live through these experiences can understand, or sympathize, or even believe it to be possible.

    Somewhere out there within the MCFD there are some people who do identify with the complaints with which so many of you are dealing and these are the people who must become so internally devastated themselves that they will risk everything in order to become Whistle-blowers with regard to practices that do harm rather than good, so that appropriate changes will be mandated to the government by public outcry. There have to be new media sources who develop consciences tender enough to publish the stories that make for change.

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  21. It's difficult to even read the stories of victims of MCFD. It makes me feel ill, so how much worse is it for these parents and children who are so horribly victimized by our own government, I can only imagine.

    Please keep telling the world of your experience with MCFD. That alone helps enormously in getting the word out. I believe that eventually, if enough people are made aware, or the right people are made aware, there will be change. It's just a matter of time. Please don't keep it inside.

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    To: October 5, 2010 8:03 PM - regarding telling friends, etc., about MCFD.

    I would approach it from a different angle. Because the hard truth is too much for them, I would send them articles that appear in the news - for example, articles where children are killed in foster care, and make some comment letting your friends know that foster care may not be as desirable as it has been made out to be. Or, I would just start associating with people who are more politically minded, for example, Libertarians, who should always be opposed to the very concept of state intervention (otherwise they are not real Libertarians). If you associate with like minded people - even if they have never experienced what you have experienced - they will be able to sympathize with you, and you will feel much better just to be in their company.

    This entire issue really is an issue of government out of control. From a political point of view, the party that is - or should be - most opposed to child protection, is the Libertarian party (that is why, for example, you will find that Doug Christie, pro bono (or largely pro bono) lawyer for the Baynes is himself a Libertarian)).

    More info on Libertarians can be found by googling of course.

    MCFD victims might also want to join organizations that fight the waste of tax dollars, as there has never been a bigger waste than these corrupt child protection agencies.

    As far as career options for children who have been victims of MCFD, what about suggesting that they be lawyers? They might find it very fulfilling to do at least some pro bono work fighting against the very institution that caused them such pain. And I would imagine it would be very empowering for a child to think that they could grow up and fight the government, and quite possibly, like Doug Christie, make a huge difference.

    One last point: experiencing such brutal trauma takes a huge toll mentally and physically. Do everything you can to be in the best shape you can (weight lifting is excellent for the health, and really helps to get rid of harmful stress hormones, like no other exercise). Spend some time researching immune boosting foods, etc. (for example, Vitamin D). Maintaining and improving physical health will have enormous benefits.

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  22. I relate to so much of what you people are going through. Here is my story.
    http://lukesarmy.com
    when you say, what can you do. this represents all a person can do. I have devoted my life to ensuring justice is served regarding the death of my son, and that my son's death, like countless other children who die in the foster care system, is not swept under the carpet.
    I will not stand by for a moment and let this continue. Please join me, and Luke's Army.

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  23. First and formost I am deaf and hard of hearing I have found that MCFD does not provide direct services through their office. A parent like my self would have to go through BC Deaf access office. The MCFD has a legal duty to accomadate anyone's disability if you are in a wheel chair thier office would have to have a wheel chair ramp if you are blind they would have to provide you assitance. The problem is MCFD are paid to remove children not provide services. I have been fighting MCFD since 1997 as a deaf and hard of hearing person. As far back as the report to court MCFD new I was deaf and instead of assisting me removed my son as there were no support services. Since the report to court I was put into programs like progect parent or Act 11 not apptopriate for somone who is deaf and I appealed. I had been denied services for the deaf and hard of hearing and interpreter in court through out proceedings. I filed class action against MCFD only to be dismissed and again I had asked the Judge for an interpreter he just said let him know if he was speaking load enough. I of course wasnt going to accept his response and insisted I wad entitled to a fair hearing 2012 the judge said lady your ship has sunk no more avenues which you can appeal! I was pissed right off. I had sometime to breath and exhaile this toxic waste from my body and did some net working Canada Court watch MCFD injustice and did some research. The outcome led me to applying to the Human rights tribunal and since the Judge said what he did and MCFD closed my file and refuse to respond my file is open at the Human rights tribunal. If my case is dismissed then back to Supreme Courtcial review. The bottom line is MCFD has a legal duty to accomadate people with disabilities and they dont. The Main objective is removing children. There are a few cases like mine where deaf parents wernt provided an interpreter at like the time of the removal MCFD are supposed to provide one. A example I will put here if MCFD can't provide a wheel chair still have to make the office accessable and for a blind person transportation and a deaf person a intrepteter in court and intake and visists I dont like being denied especially when I am entitled to the MCFD said it was over it aint until the fat lady sings it really is unbielveable how MCFD are never accountable until they met me!
    My sons father was blind MCFD said our child would be at risk in his care because of his disabilty and mine and removed our son because MCFD and the Director are just ignorant towards people with disabilities and the public should know the truth! I have told the MCFD I am not going anywhere they think they killed me but I keep coming back my child is not at risk because of my disability and like I said there are a few cases including a certain one from the Court of appeal deaf parents won!! For more info see my page face book lisa Arlin or MCFD injustice keep on keepin on!

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