Monday, October 18, 2010

IF I DID IT OVER AGAIN / Part 340 / For Love and For Justice / Zabeth and Paul Bayne

I can look back across a lifetime, 45 years ago when I was a young man in my early twenties and working at a shoe store in between college terms. Two women came into the store with two or three children. One of the women was there to buy shoes for a child. As she spoke with me, one of the small children, perhaps three years of age was jumping across the padded seats and unfortunately came into her wheelhouse. She had told him to stop but he didn't so she let him have it with the back of her forearm. She caught him fully on his chest and sent him flying through the air to the other side of the aisle, perhaps six feet. I recall it with amazement still. I was horrified by the mother's action and anger. It was instantly clear that this public display would not have been the first time this child was struck by his mother. It likely would not be the last  - because I did not act.

I said nothing and did nothing with regard to that incident. I was certainly unaware of any responsibility on my part to notify authorities. Such reporting was certainly uncommon then. After all, school teachers still practiced corporal punishment in 1962. Believe me, I know because I got it - the strap that is. A sixteen inch long, three inch wide and quarter inch thick strand of leather. As a seven year old in grade three in 1949, I received three strokes on each open palm for having stepped out of formation to playfully wrestle with another boy on the way home from school during lunch break. A few years later I was twelve years old when I was strapped by the male principal for throwing a stone at a girl and striking her on her ankle. Throwing the stone was wrong. Corporal punishment administered by a six foot two inch adult whacking a child's hands was wrong as well. It was my practice to deliver newspapers after school but that was interrupted for one week because I could not open my swollen hands and in fact didn't attend school for a couple of days. My mom and dad were merciful enough to permit me to remain at home but they did not contest the principal's action. He was a professional after all. He was a principal of a school. You did not stick your nose where it did not belong, was a general rule.

And saying anything to this mother in the shoe store or telling someone else about her so there would be repercussions was something you didn't even consider doing. People didn't involve themselves in other people's domestic affairs.

That autobiographical peek is simply to say, that if I were a young man today working in a retail store and confronted by a similar situation with a mother as obviously out of control with what is appropriate discipline or out of control of her emotions, I would not hesitate to notify authorities. That's right.. There is a keener consciousness today to protect children, and my high respect for parental rights would not supercede my feeling of obligation to do the right thing for that defenseless child. He may be a brat but he does not deserve to be belted across the room. He may be a brat because his mother is a brat.

“A common feature of child protection legislation is to require everybody in the Province to report any child needing protection. Typically, the legislation will protect the identity and civil liability of the disclosing party but otherwise makes it an offence to not report. It is one of those rare areas where Good Samaritanism is mandatory.” (from the Duhaime online legal dictionary) http://www.duhaime.org/LegalResources/FamilyLaw/LawArticle-125/Child-Protection-Law-in-Canada.aspx

Now you may be very disappointed with me at this point today, but I ask. What would stop a woman from regularly resorting to excessive force to discipline her child? A remonstrance from a store clerk would be mute. Apprehension of her child would be a wake up call. Do I think that apprehension is an excessive first measure? YES! Do I think it is reasonable to remove the child for the child's own safety? YES! That is double speak for “do you see how delicate this area can sometimes become?” On one hand, the child protection agency could approach the parent with an ultimatum that requires attendance at parenting class or an anger management class while leaving the child in the care of the parent. On the other hand, during the time that the parent is indignantly attending the class, in an uncontrolled moment he or she may club the child with a broom handle and fracture the child's hand.

Do any of you who are vehemently opposed to all things MCFD, see the complexity and delicacy of these life shaping questions? Do you detect a lot of greys in our humanity rather than merely blacks and whites? And of course can you see how the readiness of MCFD to remove children and then to KEEP them TOO long makes all good people reluctant to report. This Ministry is going to have to get it right, very SOON.

Advocating for the return of Paul's and Zabeth's three children, in MCFD care since October 2007.

25 comments:

  1. The problem is, that if the child is "apprehended" or "removed" (terms which don't really describe the violence of police officers and social workers arriving with guns and force to take a child by force from all he / she knows and loves), the problem is, the child is much more likely to be then put into a worse situation than if they are left with even a parent who occasionally hits them. This has been statistically proven and the stats have already been provided on this blog.

    So, which is worse? Having a child stay with a mother who is not the greatest in terms of discipline, but who is providing a home, a mother, a father, sisters and brothers, and people whom the child will LOVE - and don't forget, the child - even if they are not loved (and this is questionable) will nevertheless love in return, and not just his mother, but his sisters, brothers, father, aunts, uncles, dogs, pets, etc. When he is sent to foster housing, there will be none of that.

    The child, who is "protected" may very well end up getting tossed from foster house to foster house, not loved at all, may very well be physically abused, may very well be sexually abused, and will certainly feel the pain and stigma of being a "ward of the state." Stats prove that these wards of the state end up - far more often - homeless, addicted, in prison, and dead.

    So, while it may offend us to see a child treated thus, consider where that child may end up. If it was all rosy and lovely, and lovey dovey, that would be one thing, but time and time and time again, we have seen that it is anything but.

    Add to all that the fact that when you hand over such power to the state, it will always be abused, and it will always be a slippery slope. The end of this slipppery slope is pretty near, and includes such scenarios as the state waiting like a vulture for unborn children, stealing them from their mother's arms, before they've even breastfed them, all because the state has decided the mother "might" pose "a risk" at some "future" date.

    "Hell is full of good intentions or desires."

    -St Bernard 12th C.

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  2. Study: Troubled homes better than foster care

    Kids who stayed with their families were less likely to become juvenile delinquents or teen mothers and more likely to hold jobs as young adults, says the study by Joseph Doyle, an economics professor at MIT's Sloan School of Management who studies social policy.

    "The size of the effects surprised me, because all the children come from tough families," Doyle says. The National Science Foundation funded the study.

    Doyle says his research, which tracked at least 15,000 kids from 1990 to 2002, is the largest study to look at the effects of foster care. He studied kids in Illinois because of a database there that links abuse investigations to other government records.


    http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2007-07-02-foster-study_N.htm

    By not reporting the incident to child protective services, you could save a child from a life of hell. Don't take child protection services' word for it, ask a former foster child what their life was like. If they haven't been stolen as a baby and brainwashed by the state to believe their parents were crack addicted abusers (and many children are lied to and told this), if they remember their family and life before child protective services (as Bizziboy on youtube does), they will tell you in was just fine before child protective services came along, and hell afterwards.

    BIZZIBOY'S YOUTUBE CHANNEL:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8C9W5JewDI

    "A video to help others understand the damage foster care and adoption does to children."

    And I think I'd take Bizziboy's word over a social worker's.

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  3. AtlanaFalcons33 (from a youtube video)

    "well here is what i say dont put a kid in children services unless they are in a death situation faster care should be called hell care it is just that bad my hart is broke and cant be fixed ever agen."
    =================================

    "My hart is broke and can't be fixed ever agen."

    And that just about sums up the experience of too many children consigned to this hellish place, taken by the authorities who are supposedly "protecting" them.

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  4. I hear you first three commenters today. Believe me. Many people will agree with you. I would also like to hear from good foster parents about what they seek to provide to children who have been placed in care.

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  5. I'd be interested in hearing from the foster parents who were involved in this case:

    "The death of an Alberta toddler who was in foster care is being investigated as a homicide, RCMP said Thursday.

    The 21-month-old girl, from the Morinville area, died Wednesday after being brought to an Edmonton hospital in serious condition on Monday. An autopsy was performed Thursday morning but the cause of the girl's death has not been released."



    Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/edmonton/story/2010/03/04/edmonton-foster-child-death-post-mortem-rcmp-investigate.html#ixzz12jGNE1j5

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    Or, how about the murder earlier this year, in the same small town in Alberta:

    EDMONTON — A Morinville foster mother has been charged with killing a toddler in her care.

    Christine Laverdiere, 34, appeared briefly in an Edmonton courtroom Monday to face one count of second-degree murder in the killing of a 21-month-old girl.

    The child cannot be identified under the province's Child, Youth, and Family Enhancement Act.

    The little girl's biological family told The Journal the child was taken from her mentally ill mother and placed in foster care near the end of January. The girl was admitted with unknown injuries to the Stollery Children's Hospital on March 1, where she died two days later.



    Read more: http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/Morinville+foster+mother+charged+with+second+degree+murder/3092489/story.html#ixzz12jGquMiJ

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  6. And once again, we see that family members were denied the child:

    Relatives offered to take baby
    By Ben Gelinas, edmontonjournal.com
    March 6, 2010


    EDMONTON — The family members of a 21-month-old girl who was killed this week while in foster care say relatives offered to take the child before the province stepped in.

    "The family was told that it would be a short-term placement," one family member told The Journal. "A couple of other family members offered to take her."



    Read more: http://www.edmontonjournal.com/life/Relatives+offered+take+baby/2646723/story.html#ixzz12jHK9zLf

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  7. Here's another one, where the foster parents claim to be devastated. Nevertheless, somehow a child died while in their care:

    A teenage Alberta boy has died in foster care, CBC News has learned.

    Children and Youth Services Minister Yvonne Fritz confirmed Friday that the RCMP are investigating the death of the teenager from the Paul First Nation, west of Edmonton near Lake Wabamun.

    "What I can tell you is I can confirm we did have a 13-year-old foster child pass on earlier today," Fritz told CBC News.

    "It was a young man who was in a very stable, loving foster home," Fritz added. "And also my thoughts and prayers are with the family and friends of this young person because this is a very difficult time."

    The boy's foster family is devastated by the loss, the minister said.



    Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/edmonton/story/2010/04/30/edmonton-foster-care-teen-death.html#ixzz12jHsHlBV

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  8. If children were dying / being murdered like this in the homes of their biological parents, there would be a media firestorm.

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  9. I had a strap in a small town school in grade two in the late 60's (age 7 to 8). My crime was that I drew a picture that was not complimentary of the teacher, in order to impress a classmate. The teacher found the pictures, and the strap was the assigned punishment.

    Books were placed on my arm, and I was instructed to open my hands, palms facing up. The strapping was watched by a sympathetic female teacher. The principle whacked away on my hands several times as hard as he could. I remember the look of sadness and pity in the observing teacher's eyes as I cried, and lack of concern by the principal.

    All that did was make me fear and distrust authority. I only recognize now, much later the magnitude of this disproportionate punishment and the long term effects of just this one incident.

    My failing is in not educating my children to teach them to watch and discern those in authority who would use their powers inappropriately.

    Instead, I mistakenly taught them to trust all authority without question. They have now learned otherwise at a much earlier age than I to question the wisdom of some authority figures.

    Today, I daresay people on this board would willingly return to those days if there was no danger their children would be taken away by the state.

    These days, instead of the strap, children are sent home for significant infractions. Teachers can no longer physically touch children for purposes of discipline, but they also do not want to be inconvenienced, and also do not want pay anyone to stay after school for detention.

    The tactics with schools as with child protection, is to accumulte small infractions without immediate remedial action taken, then allow several to build up, which then justifies larger punishments.

    In school, when children are sent home, parents are forced to stay home or hire a babysitter if they don't want to miss work. Presumably the intent is to anger the parents who in turn would be expected to inflict punishment on their child.

    The teacher then queries the child, who can then report this punishment back to the teacher, who in turn can phone social services to report the "abuse."

    I ignored a suspension of my child I thought was inappropriate given the crime, which was a pebbles tossed in the air, one accidentally landing on a nearby child causing no injury. The principal deemed it a deliberate rock throwing despite both children and the supervising teaching telling me it was an accident) and I declared my intent to appeal as per school board rules, and brought my child to school anyways. The teacher left a message, and threatened to call social services to pick up my child from school. I ignored that message.

    Instead of following through on that threat, for the next four days the school kept my child in detention for the entire day, by himself, not learning anything.

    Over the course of the next several months, all of my children were targeted, and the local child protection office received reports from the school. The principal gave these investigators free reign to interrogate my children at school without my knowledge.

    Eventually, a year or so later, my children were removed, then subsequently unconditionally returned after two years. These many months later, the files still remain open in an active "investigation" stage, and all attempts to close them and examine them have so far failed.

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  10. There is form of harm that occurs when the exact opposite of overt signs of abuse are not present.

    For example a foster home can have a much higher standard of living than the birth parents (likely the majority of foster homes).

    Children can easily be enticed to want to stay longer, and it is easier to make them feel comfortable and encourage them to discuss less pleasant life at their birth homes.

    This was the clear case in one of the four foster home placements in a year. My child was treated like royalty for the purposes of convincing her to stay in care permanently.

    Fortunately this failed, as the foster parent and social worker later revealed their true colors and retaliated agains my child and me for later changing her mind.

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  11. Anon at October 18, 2010 11:28 AM:

    Thank you very much for telling us about your experience with "child protection." What a horror story.

    If there is any way that parents can manage it, I would strongly suggest that they home school their children. All the negative claims you will have heard about this form of education are untrue (e.g., children aren't socialized, children don't get a proper education). Home schoolers have also united to fight the tyranny of child protection, which can be an enormous advantage (versus fighting this tyranny alone).

    HOME SCHOOLING:

    http://homeschooling.about.com/od/cannat/Homeschooling_in_Canada.htm

    BC HOME SCHOOLING:

    http://www.bchomeschool.net/

    "Every parent has the right to choose the educational option that they deem to be right for their children.

    There are governing laws that regulate these options and Homeschooling is among these legitimate ones. We have provided below a copy of the BC School Act which outlines the laws and regulations as they pertain to homeschooling and homeschoolers."

    http://www.bced.gov.bc.ca/legislation/schoollaw/revisedstatutescontents.pdf

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  12. DEATHS IN FOSTER CARE:

    http://www.fixcas.com/scholar/fatal.htm

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  13. Hi Ron,
    Again, thank you for writing this blog. You were asking for some comments from foster parents. As the current FP for the Bayne children, I thought maybe it would be appropriate to respond. I expect some readers will take offence at what I write, but I am willing to take that risk. I, as I have mentioned before, was a child in care. I came from a violent and unstable home. I went through four foster homes - one terrible home, two so-so, and one excellent one. It was the last home that impacted me the most. It turned my life around. They believed in me and taught me to expect the best out of life, a message I had never had. However, there was much damage from my earlier life, and the moving from home to home. I had to go through years of personal therapy to help make a positive turn in my life. I am grateful that God filled my life wit positive friends and examples to draw from. Because of that last home, I knew that one day I wanted to foster as well, to set up my home as a "safety net" for children at risk. I have a family of my own - I certainly didn't need to have more children. That was never my intention. I have seen many children come in and out of care. We celebrate when they are successfully returned home, and grieve with them when a return is not possible. Over the past 14 years I have seen many positive and negative results. There is much to fix in the "system" - I agree. I was reading The Province paper this am. They are featuring an excellent article on children/poverty/results. Great material for your readers. And very discouraging. It makes me even more determined to provide the best home I can - loving, nurturing, and safe - until the grownups in their lives sort through all the "other stuff".

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  14. Thank you current FP 3:46 PM, for being willing to tell your personal story and your motivation for being an FP. As long as removals occur, it is imperative that quality Foster Parenting be available or the horror stories continue. Thank you for expressing your satisfaction at seeing successful family restorations too.

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  15. I have had some time to think and try to figure out what the right answers might be. I guess that the whole child protection situation got started because of people not knowing how to help children in those troubles you describe.
    We are in a time in history in North America when many people do not have children and know nothing about children. SO, they create rules from their own memories of being children.
    I suppose it is true that no trouble should be spared to remove a child from an abusive parent. Many should have not had to suffer as they have.
    But, it has lost it's way. They are too quick to judge. I lost two children of mine and they do not even seem to know why. I am still fighting one year later. It is all I think about.
    I wish it were not like this. I wish I were just having happy times taking my son to soccer, or planning a birthday party for my daughter.
    I have never thought before about why someone would not respect the work and love that goes into being a parent and the deep bond between parent and child.
    But there are cases where children are mistreated, and we do need an answer. I think that they are too quick to trust the good intentions of SWs and to quick to assume the worst of parents. The situation also has too many untruths in it. After reading my 1000 page file, I could no longer take MCFD seriously. I mean, why sit at your lap top and make things up? Many people know that their file is full of untruths. When will it stop? When will a judge start to think that MCFD has lied too many times to be credible. It is crazy.
    They should dedicate to real abuse, not so many exhausting court cases for the same families. Eight court appearance for my family in only one year. Why???
    Still do not know. Potential of neglect is all.
    I have been relying on my parents and family to get through court that MCFD put on me. Am I a better parent from their intervention??? No. Just more educated about court and about their methods!!! Are my kids happier from their intervention???? NO!!!!! They just want to get on with life. My oldest are almost adults. They do not need 'services'.
    My SW gave a big, loud, cheerful greeting to my baby. My baby screamed and is so frightened of her. She remembers all the drivers, all the supervisors, and all the SWs who took her away from mom (me).

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  16. Thanks 5:49 PM
    I am sorry for the negative impact this experience has had on you and your children.
    Are we to understand that one year later you still do not have custody of your children?

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  17. Its easy to get defensive when the whole blog of the day is about bad foster homes. So I wont. But I will tell you about a good and kind and loving Foster home. That Foster home is mine. I know some of you dont want to hear it so you should probably stop reading now.
    I knew I wanted to be a Foster Parent when I was 5 years old. I know, seems kind of young. I was the oldest of 4. We grew up in a trailer on what was called 'the flats" in an area of Port Hardy. It was a mix of people, mostly working Daddies and stay at home moms. Both of my parents worked. My mom a nurse, dad had his own welding business. I used to play with all the kids on our street. It was a gravel street, quiet enough we could ride our bikes, run and play and come in for supper when we were hungry. Lots of freedom. There was a little girl that we played with and she somehow convinced me to bring her food everday which I did. She had matted dark hair and she smelled like pee. But I liked her. Sometimes I knocked on the door at her house and she would come outside in shorts or a dress and one time in underwear and a t shirt! It was cold out and my mom sent her home to get something warmer on a few times. I played with her and brought her home one day. My mother was horrified. She had tears in her eyes when she asked my little friend where was her mommy? She said "my mommys gone" I saw my moms reaction. I somehow felt different. I looked at my little friend and remember thinking Yeah, where is your mommy? My mom took her into our house, gave her a bath and found some of my too small clothes to put on her. She was scared in the bathtub and that really made my mom cry. The little girl had headlice so bad you could see them all over her head. My mom made her some dinner and she didnt get mad when my friend licked the plate clean and then said "more"
    My mom called Social Services and they basically told her to keep her,she was fine with us and they would call next week to see how she was doing. So we did. She did end up moving on, I dont know why. I was just a little kid but a few years later I saw her at the Fall Fair and she was clean and smiling and her hand was in a grownup mans hand and he had very kind smiling eyes.
    That is when I knew I wanted to Foster.
    The Baynes youngest child was placed with me when she came into care. I didnt know what to think when I was told it was a suspected shaken baby case. I had to make a decision. Take this baby, care for her, introduce her to our children, nurture and love her while we had her or say No.
    I said Yes, I love providing care for babies. Thats where my strengths are in Fostering. We had this child for 2 years and very sadly had to let her go be with her brothers in the same home, in the same city as the parents and extended family live. Plus we were moving up North at the time. It was time to say goodbye.Her current Foster mom and I had many phone calls and visits to ensure as smooth transition as could be. It still was painful for the child and for my family. I still miss that little girl but feel relieved she is with such a wonderful loving family during her time in care.
    We had a bond with her. We had this bond because we cared for and nurtured her, we gave her everything we could and met her needs.
    We are always thoughtful of natural family. We talk about family, show pictures and support visits, phonecalls and letters with all of our foster children. I saw the joy in the eyes of our foster babys dad last week when I gave him an little album I made of his sons first year and I loved seeing my current Foster daughters face after her mommy called her for the first time in 3 months last week. She had a call from mommy, HER mommy and she skipped around all afternoon because of it. I GET IT. Some dont. Some never will and some will eventually.
    I thank god that the Bayne Children have been cared for and loved lots, either in my home or their current home.

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  18. I got my daughter back at the end of the summer, but not my son. I am not sure if the next court date in November will be about that or an extension of the supervision order over my daughter. I had a hard time finding a lawyer who would fight MCFD. I was quoted a price of $20,000 to $60,000 to deal with my case.
    I do feel calmer and happier since I got my daughter back. And I am working on the next court presentation. I saw an advocate today. That really cheered me up, since she was quite helpful. I told here that the stuff on my file is not true. She told me that it is very common for people she sees to have lots of untrue 'findings' on their files. That made me wonder why? Why don't the SWs have to write the truth? Do they make stuff up? I would never have believed that if I am not currently experiencing it. As we trust professionals.
    Thank-you for your questions. My thoughts are with Paul and Zabeth and I think they are very brave.
    Th

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  19. 9:17 PM Anon,
    I want you to know the value of your comments. Of course it is difficult for some readers whose pain runs deeper than even you may know, to accept that foster homes can operate with anything but sinister motives. You help to fill in the larger picture. The other side of the picture as you have inferred is the agony natural parents experience when the bond that you and other foster folks create is the bond which they are forbidden. Again thanks for writing and for the indications of a sensitivity that reaches in a number of directions.

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  20. Anon TH 9:26 AM
    I am glad your daughter is back with you but sad for you that your son is still not with you. If the cost of a lawyer is estimated at $20,000 - $60,000 for you, have you actually gone ahead with that? And what does the advocate do for you?

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  21. My daughter was with a very good foster family and it put my mind at rest. However, it is not necessarily the case that the child thinks so. My daughter was very stressed the entire time she was in care. She has a happy home life and she was taken because they take the child first then work it out in court later as to why they did. Court takes a long time and lawyers are expensive.
    I do commend the people in the system who do a good job. I know a girl on my street who was living with her grandmother and a grow op was found. She is doing well now. But she was not perfectly happy in foster care. SO it is not a Cinderella story.
    Of course if there are not good, ethical people in the system who really deeply care about children it is much worse. So, I do applaud you. But, I still believe that children are being taken from parents with too much stress (by police) and too rashly (no real reasons, just unfounded suspicions or because MCFD knows the family already).

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  22. To the former foster parent of the Bayne's daughter (October 18, 2010 9:17 PM).

    One thing I've always wondered about foster parents - do they ever wonder if children have been wrongfully taken from their parents, and if they do, does this bother them? I can see why some people might like to be foster parents, but I wonder how people deal with the knowledge that MCFD does seem to take children from parents when they shouldn't.

    If you could answer this, that would be very helpful.

    Thank you.

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  23. Although I'm not the previous foster parent, I am the current foster parent, I hope it's okay if I respond.
    Yes, I have often wondered if children were removed incorrectly. Every time a child is placed with me. I, from the beginning of each story, know nothing, except that I rec'd a call, and there is a child/children waiting in an office or emergency home. We respond quickly. The worst thing of all is imagining the poor little being sitting somewhere with no idea where they are going to sleep that night. I believe that funding should be made available to ALL foster children to be able to process the post-traumatic stress that they ALL go through - whether there has been physical abuse, neglect, drugs, whatever their parent's stories are. I have also watched and worked with parents who do whatever it takes to get their kids back (sometimes as simple as going back on their meds for manic depression) or finding more suitable housing - or GETTING housing. Unfortunately, as stories are gathered and more information comes in, I have rarely seen a child come into care where there were not serious concerns. And the way I handle the insanity of my job, is to remind myself over and over that my responsibility is to the child/children. To keep it to that level. That their needs are being met. Children are amazing. If they are being nurtured and cared for and given the opportunity to express their feelings, they can begin to heal. One thing I want to make perfectly clear - I HAVE NEVER said ANYTHING to any of the children to discredit their parents. I believe that relationship with their families is absolutely important - it is an extension of the child. This blog doesn't represent many of the cases I have seen or worked with. I have seen the other side of what Ron portrays. Kids picked up wandering around downtown parking lots with no idea where they are; from run-down motels on KGH with pedophiles two doors away and no parents around; kids that show the police where their parent's drug paraphonalia is hidden; sexually abused children. I've seen so many of these stories. And EVERY parent claims innocence. I've also seen a HUGE number of kids returned - way too soon. Budget is often the reason. But for very different reasons than stated here. And then we watch children being removed again because they were sent home to an addict who slipped again, to an abuser who really did try, but hurt again, to homelessness, to prostitution ... very discouraging ... and talk about moving from home to home. More often than not these vulnerable little beings are taken, placed in a home, removed to return home, end up back in care, and the beds are full at the previous foster home, so they start all over. It is terribly depressing. So I guess I see a different side to this story. I have never sent a child away. As I won't with the Baynes. As long as they are in care, I will continue to do the best possible job I can. To alleviate SOME of their pain, nurture and care as much as I can, and help build and model positive outcomes to the best of my ability.

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  24. 9:34 aM oCTOBER 21
    Thanks for writing. Your experience is greatly appreciated. Homes are needed for precisely the cases to which you have alluded. I acknowledge that. Good for you, for seeing a need and wanting to help. And good for you for providing a comforting environment for saddened little people.

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  25. I was going to reply to you Anonymous oct 20 7 30 but I couldnt have said it better than the Bayne childrens current Foster Mom. We are in contact with each other and offer support and an ear to listen to each other when we need it. And we agree on many issues that we face as Foster Parents. I, like the current Foster Mom have rarely seen a child or children come into care without serious concerns. And just so you know. Yes, it would bother me if I ever thought a child was wrongfully taken!

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