tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8060003097513753942.post4793451297347480809..comments2024-02-24T16:30:33.798-08:00Comments on GPS: TWO HUNDRED AND COUNTING / Part 200 / For Love and For Justice / Zabeth and Paul Bayne/Ronhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07353695791008715393noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8060003097513753942.post-46065049156184601622010-05-26T13:53:14.440-07:002010-05-26T13:53:14.440-07:00Ron - you wrote: CW, you are bewildered by Anon...Ron - you wrote: CW, you are bewildered by Anon's desire to withdraw all child removal capacity. I have come to understand that people coming to Canada from some other cultures and countries find it abhorrent that the State has this authority in this free land. They seem not to be able to discern that some family situations are so disgusting and some parents so short on skills that the children are safer somewhere else. <br /><br />...<br />You are quite right, Ron. Thank you for reminding me of this.CWnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8060003097513753942.post-24112008225554281152010-05-26T11:34:28.505-07:002010-05-26T11:34:28.505-07:00To CW and Ron:
In no uncertain term, I am convinc...To CW and Ron:<br /><br />In no uncertain term, I am convinced beyond any doubt that the state's child removal authority should be and must be revoked. Such barbaric act has no place in a civilized society.<br /><br />This is not to say that the state should not separate vulnerable children from their abusive parents if there is good evidence suggesting that abuse does occur. I am sure that there are situations in which children are safer elsewhere, at least for the time being.<br /><br />Due process, like the Criminal Code and Mental Health Act have already given authorities sufficient power to separate abusive or unfit parents and their children. CFCSA is redundant, oppressive and counter productive. Atrocities the Baynes and other oppressed parents will never happen if this hideous law does not exist. <br /><br />In view of the negative impacts of state-sponsored child removals on families and ironically children, no responsible government would insist on such authority and continue to fund such an oppressive regime under the pretext of "child protection".<br /><br />It does not matter what one's cultural origin is. I am talking about an issue of humanity, natural justice, corruption and national security.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8060003097513753942.post-37773262207601859492010-05-26T09:27:47.602-07:002010-05-26T09:27:47.602-07:00CW, you are bewildered by Anon's desire to wit...CW, you are bewildered by Anon's desire to withdraw all child removal capacity. I have come to understand that people coming to Canada from some other cultures and countries find it abhorrent that the State has this authority in this free land. They seem not to be able to discern that some family situations are so disgusting and some parents so short on skills that the children are safer somewhere else.Ronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07353695791008715393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8060003097513753942.post-84134858857167352702010-05-26T08:03:39.702-07:002010-05-26T08:03:39.702-07:00Did you really just say child-removal authority sh...Did you really just say child-removal authority should be removed? You believe no child has ever justly been removed from a family? You wish for who to have the authority? The RCMP/City Police?CWnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8060003097513753942.post-7702871745859401172010-05-26T00:12:09.874-07:002010-05-26T00:12:09.874-07:00To: Anonymous said... on May 25, 2010 11:18 AM
La...To: Anonymous said... on May 25, 2010 11:18 AM<br /><br />Lawsuit is what the government fears after their running dogs create atrocities of this magnitude and this nature to the people of British Columbia. This partially explains why bureaucrats and politicians refuse to admit wrongdoings despite so much irrefutable evidence.<br /><br />Like victims of residential schools, you may have to wait 50 years after government abolished such hideous system before you will get an apology. This is to ensure that those who can be held accountable are all dead or no longer be an embarrassment to the government should court finds them liable.<br /><br />Enough is enough. The first thing parents must do is to stop this state-sponsored atrocities by revoking child removal authority. All these are possible because SW have the power, the resources, the incentive and the cruelty to remove children from home.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8060003097513753942.post-5742249591112016852010-05-25T22:24:55.529-07:002010-05-25T22:24:55.529-07:00Nobody said the Baynes have to admit false guilt. ...Nobody said the Baynes have to admit false guilt. Simply put - if they are guilty of abuse they should do programs to correct it in the best interest of their children. If they did commit abuse and will not admit it then a therapeutic service would not be appropriate, nor would most allow them entry. Goes without saying if they are innocent then no services necessary re: child abuse.CWnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8060003097513753942.post-64920319076670033172010-05-25T21:14:20.604-07:002010-05-25T21:14:20.604-07:00The comments here are so interesting to read and o...The comments here are so interesting to read and often, very informative. So, also, is the blog, Ron. <br />People understand if you will "admit" guilt to a crime you did not commit when it helps your goals to be reached. By contrast, it may not be so easy to understand when people have the courage and morals to continue on insisting that the truth be held to, even in the face of possibly losing everything. <br />Apparently the MCFD is staffed with people who aren't used to having parents and families stand up to their mean, bullying, dishonorable, abusive tactics. <br />I sincerely applaud the Baynes and all other parents with such intestinal fortitude and high purpose who won't cave in!! We continue to keep face to face with the King of kings on this matter and it will be resolved.Bernicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02804868851012481592noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8060003097513753942.post-89612400281330074102010-05-25T14:44:02.709-07:002010-05-25T14:44:02.709-07:00TO: CPS 1:24
Your words made me cry. For years, I ...TO: CPS 1:24<br />Your words made me cry. For years, I too "call on all law-abiding citizens: work together to erase the corruption!" Thank you and Ron and every reader with clear conscience!Josef Fisherhttp://fcase.blogharbor.com/blognoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8060003097513753942.post-80885480018958446372010-05-25T13:24:23.452-07:002010-05-25T13:24:23.452-07:00Thank you, Ron, for working so hard on this blog, ...Thank you, Ron, for working so hard on this blog, which is so important no only to the Baynes but to all who are affected by child protective services (and that would, I would think, be all of us).<br /><br />There is no way that the pain and suffering of this family, and all families who have been destroyed by CPS (or the MCFD or CAS or whatever they call themselves) - there is no way that the pain and suffering can be represented in terms that exaggerate that pain and suffering. There really are no words to articulate what child protective services puts parents and children through. It is indeed a horror story. <br /><br />CPS may not destroy all families, but it destroys enough that we all should be outraged and demand change. And accountability.CPS destroys Familieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16289050721664618818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8060003097513753942.post-74687761456572839862010-05-25T11:18:54.089-07:002010-05-25T11:18:54.089-07:00Let's see, 492 days passed without my children...Let's see, 492 days passed without my children before they were returned to me with no strings attached. MCFD values each hour of supervised access at about $100/hr, so MCFD owes me $1,180,800 for each removed child for this absence of love and affection over this period of time. Multiply by ten for deterrent effect and deliberate violation of me and my children's charter rights, the CFCSA and Criminal Code for fraudulent records manipulation and perjury.<br /><br />Using the nifty online date calculator at http://www.timeanddate.com/date/duration.html, 946 days has passed since Paul and Zabeth's three children were removed October 22, 2007.<br /><br />MCFD owes Paul and Zabeth $6,811,200 for the inappropriate removal of their three children for 946 days. Add that to the approximate $1,000,000 of MCFD involvment has cost taxpayers to date.<br /><br />Taxpayers in Canada would win in the long run because then MCFD would be far more careful in their questionable removal activities, and untold millions would be saved in foster care and legal fees, supervision costs, psychologists and other health practitioners, needless social worker paper-pushing and other useless administrative tasks.<br /><br />Unless some forumula is devised to deter child protection authorities from keeping children for so long in a limbo that everyone agrees is not in the best interests of the children involved, this worldwide problem will continue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8060003097513753942.post-47014335220167175432010-05-25T10:57:06.036-07:002010-05-25T10:57:06.036-07:00The LOST show (gotta love that series) is an appro...The LOST show (gotta love that series) is an appropriate mention for today for another reason, as today is the 24th annual National Missing Children's Day. <br /><br />See: http://www.industrymailout.com/Industry/View.aspx?id=206211&q=209332223&qz=d3f435<br /><br />This LOST theme would is indeed relevant for children inappropriately removed as a result of government intervention, which is the primary subject of this blog. Heartbroken parents and extended family members in government removal situations go through similar angst as parents whose children have gone missing for unknown reasons.<br /><br />The Calgary based missing children's society assists and augments police efforts through fundraising from corporate and personal donations, and they also utilize large numbers of volunteers, typically parents who have been affected by a missing child.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8060003097513753942.post-91648975429309242782010-05-25T07:54:23.772-07:002010-05-25T07:54:23.772-07:00Ron, I have been posting the last little while - a...Ron, I have been posting the last little while - and I couldn't agree more with ya. Blessings.Community Worker (CW)noreply@blogger.com